Talk:Shadow Cat Nyami/@comment-27516514-20160315143448/@comment-26336535-20160316024505

The problem with your comparisons is that those units aren't even nukers (with the exceptions of Zenia and Avani's UBBs). Yes, they have damage utility from their UBBs, but overall, their damage output's aren't as high as the actual nukers, like Randolph, or Rize. A better comparison would be to Avant, as they are extremely similar. They have ridiculously strong LSs, but their sub unit skills are worse than you'd expect from their LSs. Nyami trades a 30% HP buff and BB modifier buff for an additional 80% ATK. Avant's UBB provides Crit, Spark, and a BB modifier buff, so with certain units, you'll get a larger buff from Avant. Red Sparks from Nyami's UBB have a 100% chance of proccing, so with other units, you could get more damage from her UBB than Avant's, along with some BB support. From what I understand, Red Sparks multiply with the total spark damage you have, so I assume with more spark damage, Red Sparks become more effective.

If you were to actually look at the numbers, Hadaron vastly outdamages Nyami thanks ot his 400% ATK buff (not to mention his sphere), and Randolph outdamages her as well with his 300% ATK buff. What does Nyami have? A Red Spark buff, which, when combined with crit, can be immensely powerful, but without a strong, basic ATK buff, and some strong spark buffs, it doesn't have as much strength as Hadaron or Randolph considering the RNG involved. Also, to answer Densetsu, no, not really, since Rize has an ATK buff from her ES, and a higher first-turn multiplier, and Nyami's only increases against a single target.

I will concede that Nyami's LS is extremely strong for damage, outdamaging even Avant's LS. However, Nyami's own damage does not reach any of the Meta nukers, meaning you'd still need some other nuker to truly reach maximum damage.

As a sidenote, I tested the damage of a mono Hadaron squad, and the lowest damage one of them dealt at half health (around where you'd be mid-raid or mid-trial) was about 6 million damage. This was my Hadaron with BoU and Heavenly Bud, I believe. Basically, this Hadaron alone already almost reached Nyami's UBB damage output with his SBB, and he was one of the weaker ones. Compare that to Nyami's SBB, and you see why people consider her mediocre. Her normal damage output is subpar for a nuker.