Talk:Summoners' Research Lab/@comment-112.209.50.145-20150629230243/@comment-206.248.77.236-20150705053734

Karl and Grahdens are superbly easy and can be done with 5* units. (Full 6* units are favorable though).

For karl you need to be carefull with his 50% hp Super blast.

As for Grah, most people will say guard on the first turn. Truth is DON'T. make your first team a burny or something and have him eat the starting attack. There is NO NEED to waste a fujin to heal that damage.

Most important thing is always their hp break attacks so read a guide and you can do both in less than an hour :)