User blog comment:Mohamed7845/Ultor/Deimos Who is Better/@comment-26053138-20150822201237/@comment-26053138-20150823005844

And Ultor can be more valuble in Karl Ex. Lugina ignores defense. Aka, Rekt. Ultor does resist the attacks but still gets Rekt and Demios also does. And Karl also does enough damage to pierce the defense and taunt of them after using SBB to buff himself. I also agree, this was a great debate.