Talk:Sage God Melord/@comment-30408586-20161103193240/@comment-27076522-20161104130406

Except you do have units that do everything Vargas does better with added extra buffs. This is not a case of you not having anything better because you do and they are in your squad. Using Vargas is like bringing a unit that does nothing but deal some damage when you could bring a unit that does better stuff. As an FYI, my units used reguarily with a 160% DEF buff, mitigation, and an 80% ATK>DEF conversion. My units all have 40% all stat spheres at a minimum, 20% all stat elgifs, and bonus stat secondary spheres. This should give you an idea for what happens when you remove the ATK>DEF.

You're going to have to wait for Elimo OE anyway. It's impossible without HoT. No, this is not a challenge. You are not the protagonist of an anime series; you cannot perform miracles. With all the units you have said you have so far Elimo OE is necessary for your Mildran Karna Masta team.