Talk:Ardent Dawn Avant/@comment-73.197.194.42-20151031220950/@comment-201.233.167.220-20151101052901

Explanation: Avant (anima) will get 0.15*(7794-6902) aditional attack from his conversion buff compared to his breaker self, thats roughtly 133 (no spheres or LS taken in to account), BUT, his breaker self will get 1,3*(3093-2855) aditional attack from his attack buff, thats like 333 more atack, compared with his anima version..., now take in to acount LS and Spheres:

Avant (while using Dandelga) can rise his attack up to 2x his original base stat, that means that the 333 diference in atk gets doubled just by using dandelga (no LS needed), while using Anima, avant hp gets 2 to 2,2 times bigger, that means that 133 gets doubled too, so at optimal situations breaker will surpass anima with 400 more attack from atk buffs (666-266), and another 400 attack from the diference on base attack, so Breaker > anima by roughtly 800 atk.