Talk:Boreal Tempest Haile/@comment-27682963-20160127041746/@comment-27344455-20160128051251

"as long as it's not oracle, oracle sucks"

Really now, what if I told you an Oracle Avant can burn your ideals away with the right Elgif? His attack doesn't get penalized so he still does the same damage compared to an anima/guardian/lord, excluding x>attack conversion (where rec>atk would benefit him due to type)

Yeah sure Oracle looks iffy at first glance and on paper, but the loss of def on an Avant is pretty much negligible, because he's all about damage.