Talk:Winter Memoria/@comment-27695577-20161221054023/@comment-27178622-20161221161350

Well they'll both give Zel his 30% from ES which is nice. Thief's Jewel does give the 150% to Atk and Def after certain amount of BC/HC is collected. With this though you get the Rec and a higher item drop % but its just 2% the Rec is nice for units that convert based off of Rec.