Talk:Turbo Wings Nemethgear/@comment-27300639-20150829092123/@comment-103.230.0.254-20150830081313

And again, not exactly. His value is in his UBB and as a light unit since it works out well with Kira's elemental weakness LS and against mobs (and bosses) w/ dark attributes in FH mid farming since Kira covers both Mifune and Him so you get more dmg overall in FH farming. In fact, currently, he's one of the key parts of how to get 20 mil plus points in one run at FH mid.

And the dmg w/ farlon is not so good to use because his BB dmg mod is weaker than will/zeldeus/zenia and he's not going to be a nuker w/ his low SBB multiplier, so he doesn't have a place in a nuke squad to actually display his dmg unless ofc you don't have another BB dmg mod unit (then again, bb dmg mod is useful, but not always necessary in a nuke squad.

As for that ATK buff, because it's an additive mod to ATK stat instead of multiplicative mod to the calculated dmg, its contribution when equipped w/ high ATK sphere and w/ LS is going to be less than it looks on paper compared to the multiplicative dmg mod like crit, elemental weakness, and spark.

And lastly, for what you're saying about dmg...In terms of crit nuking squad composition, highest spark buff from BB/SBB atm is 80% iirc (Claire's at 70%...? but even w/ 80% spark boost, the spark is just a 2.3x multiplier), which slightly loses out to nemethgear's UBB (2.7x). But considering that additional UBB spark stacks with other unit's spark buff nemethgear's contribution to a squad could make the spark multiplier go up to 3x w/o spark boosting LS.

So, sure his SBB may not be the best, but the hardcore people don't use him for the SBB. Thus comparing him with other unit's SBB and say he isn't powerful is unfair. Michele could fill a similar role... but you'd have to settle for a LS w/ slightly lower elemental weakness like ultor or maxwell(at least I can't recall off the top of my head a unit whose LS deals elem weakness for fire unit). And it really depends on what you're trying to nuke, i.e. if it's an earth bosses. I actually think Farlon will have a harder time finding his place in a meta squad because he's sacrificing survivability to do a SBB that doesn't contribute as much to the squad as some of the alternatives like the units I mentioned before w/ BB dmg mod buff.

Anyway, right now nemethgear is the only infinite AOE SBB in global, so there's that going for him..and even in the future, he'll still have a place in crit elemental nuking squad since he's packing a lot in its UBB.