Talk:Phoenix Torque Ruby/@comment-135.23.167.171-20150703180411/@comment-74.194.111.89-20150704052455

Ignore that same amount part, Griel's is 50% and Ruby's is 30%/20% ( 30% down on SBB, gives chance for units to apply 20% down which overwrites it). Basically use Griel last for the best chances for the higher atk down debuff. Using boh will pretty much guarantee the enemy has some attack down on them, no matter the power, which will help.