Talk:Ice Bastion Zeldeus/@comment-26464145-20150815092035/@comment-25209037-20150815133449

You're still wrong though. If a player have a Edea and a Tridon, Zeldeus is really useless in general usage unless you prefer using classic units like I do. And maybe it didn't occur to you, but a lot more players have a Tridon than Zeldeus since Tridon had a longer meta shelf life compared to Zeldeus' Oulu, since Oulu was replaced by Shera and Darvanshel, so you can expect a lot more players tried pulling for a Tridon than Oulu.

Not to mention, Zeldeus pairs poorly with Raaga/Zenia leads, while Tridon+Edea is the opposite, which further hurts the Ice Bastion.

Point is that Tridon offers 4 different things on him, healing, BC rate buff, pseudo-HP buff, DEF buff  while Zeldeus only offers 3 (mitigation, DEF buff and BB/SBB/UBB DMG modifier buff),