Brave Frontier Wiki:Chat/Logs/30 July 2016

 [12:28]  in running the team the right way [12:28]  and at 980% [12:28]  I'd consider that BB support instead of Spark [12:28]  Yeah, he's a spark blanket similar to Elza without the heal. [12:29]  how much would he do at 1280% den? [12:29]  more or less the same [12:29]  does sirius bb attack buff stack on rouche? [12:29]  Yes. [12:29]  so at 1280% [12:29]  he would do over a mill? [12:29]  But I don't believe it is multiplicative. [12:29]  oh [12:29]  My computer is finally alive [12:30]  WB Lin. [12:30]  * IiCreation is confused [12:30] <YugioMaster2187> hey lin [12:30] <Linathan> Hi [12:30] <IiCreation> so 200k at 480% [12:30] <IiCreation> how much at 1280% den? [12:30] <YugioMaster2187> farming is so boring [12:30] <Linathan> If you guys are talking about Atk buffs [12:30] <Linathan> They're all additive [12:30] <Tetradim> Here, I'll give you some links to read on in your PM. Someone better at explaining things has been through this already/ XD [12:31] <Blake Xi> isn't there a BF damage calculator on the web somewhere [12:31] <IiCreation> the BF Calculator [12:31] <Nyanlime> It freezes for him [12:31] <Nyanlime> lel [12:31] <Blake Xi> perhaps that could help creation more than we could [12:31] <IiCreation> takes years [12:31] <IiCreation> lol [12:31] <Tetradim> So same as mitigation, Lin? 75% + 50 + =/= 125%. [12:31] <Linathan> That'd be broken [12:31] <Nyanlime> Anyways I don't think a calculator is going to help that much [12:31] <Nyanlime> You're better off just testing it in the battle simulator [12:32] <Linathan> 125% mitigation = 1 damage for each hit [12:32] <Linathan> Even then [12:32] <Blake Xi> last i checked mitigation stacks multiplicatively [12:32] <Blake Xi> outside LS mitigation [12:32] <IiCreation> i dont have it yet lol [12:32] <Nyanlime> Sphere miti? [12:32] <Linathan> the extra 25% is irrelevant [12:32] <IiCreation> i wanna see the damage before i use materials [12:32] <Linathan> but even then, it's not additive whatsoever [12:32] <Blake Xi> probably additively for sphere miti [12:32] <Tetradim> I figured out how to get 100% mitigation (1 damage) forever thanks to KoF Benimaru. o_o [12:32] <Blake Xi> quick someone craft a fire mail and test it out [12:32] <IiCreation> isnt that just [12:32] <IiCreation> a OD team? [12:32] <IiCreation> lol [12:33] <Tetradim> Yeah. With Tilith friend. [12:33] <Tetradim> 5 Benimaru + Tilith = 50% OD fill each round, UBB 100% damage mitigation. [12:33] <IiCreation> lol [12:33] <IiCreation> can you do [12:33] <IiCreation> boreal karl [12:33] <IiCreation> ester [12:33] <IiCreation> zephyr [12:33] <IiCreation> lilith [12:34] <Linathan> You can'ty [12:34] <Linathan> *can't [12:34] <IiCreation> ;-; [12:34] <YugioMaster2187> i could craft fire mail [12:34] <IiCreation> not all in 1 turn doe? [12:34] <YugioMaster2187> but im using honor bones to craft Twilight Stone [12:34] <Tetradim> I'd have to look at their % they add, but Benimaru adds 10% each SBB. [12:34] <IiCreation> since UBB miti stacks with SBB miti [12:34] <Linathan> Benimaru provides the highest OD fill in the game [12:34] <Linathan> 10% [12:34] <Nyanlime> Well I could [12:34] <Nyanlime> But ehhh [12:34] <Linathan> Five uses = 50% OD fill per turn [12:34] <IiCreation> 75% from sirius UBB plus krantz SBB=100% miti? [12:34] <IiCreation> [12:34] <IiCreation> for 3 turns? [12:35] <Tetradim> No. [12:35] <Nyanlime> It's not endless since the OD will keep raising [12:35] <Nyanlime> lol [12:35] <IiCreation> 87.5%? [12:35] <Linathan> All mitigation stacks multiplicatively [12:35] <Linathan> with the exception of LS [12:35] <Blake Xi> lin [12:35] <Blake Xi> does sphere count [12:35] <Blake Xi> kek [12:35] <Tetradim> Yes. [12:35] <Linathan> I think they're additive too [12:35] <IiCreation> er [12:35] <IiCreation> so [12:35] <IiCreation> 75%+50% [12:35] <YugioMaster2187> hey lex [12:35] <IiCreation> whats the the result? [12:35] <IiCreation> lol [12:35] <Nyanlime> It was like 87.5% [12:35] <Linathan> 87.5% [12:35] <Blake Xi> 87.5% [12:35] <IiCreation> oh .3. [12:35] <Tetradim> It's somewhere around 85%. [12:35] <IiCreation> thats still good doe [12:36] <Tetradim> Lin, you're too fast. &gt;_&lt; [12:36] <Blake Xi> so lin [12:36] <Linathan> ? [12:36] <Blake Xi> which unit has the highest LS mit [12:36] <Blake Xi> for all elements [12:36] <Linathan> Cardes [12:36] <Linathan> errr [12:36] <Blake Xi> still tilith/gazia? [12:36] <Linathan> Tilith, Gazia, tridon [12:36] <Blake Xi> ah tridong [12:36] <Nyanlime> My boy Ding Dong [12:36] <Blake Xi> never thought i'd hear that name again [12:36] <Linathan> Ding Dong Sobida (Y) [12:36] <Blake Xi> so lin [12:36] <IiCreation> hm [12:36] <Linathan> Lord savior of all servers [12:37] <YugioMaster2187> wow [12:37] <YugioMaster2187> i have 20K merit points [12:37] <IiCreation> boreal+zephyr+lilith+estelle+zephyr friend [12:37] <IiCreation> thats should be good enough to get UBB every 2-3 turns [12:37] <Linathan> mfw I didn't do anything in BF for 45 mins while Pokemon hacking [12:37] <Nyanlime> Until OD keeps getting bigger [12:39] <IiCreation> yup rouche will do more damage than my OE mifune [12:39] <IiCreation> XD [12:39] <Linathan> Not exactly [12:39] <Linathan> Mifune has higher Atk than Rouche [12:39] <IiCreation> my team cannot provide that many buffs .3. [12:39] <IiCreation> for mifune [12:39] <IiCreation> but rouche starts at 480% and goes to 980% [12:40] <IiCreation> so thats good [12:40] <Linathan> Heavenless Bushi Mifune [12:40] <IiCreation> my mifunes at 13k attack [12:40] <IiCreation> just saying [12:40] <Linathan> SBB mod = 1000% [12:40] <IiCreation> itll probably end at 14.5k when im doing imping him [12:41] <IiCreation> though [12:41] <IiCreation> haz yet to see my mifune [12:41] <IiCreation> ever do more than 500k [12:41] <IiCreation> XD [12:42] <IiCreation> mifune + sirius [12:42] <IiCreation> = 1300% [12:42] <IiCreation> but hes fragile [12:42] <IiCreation> lin [12:42] <IiCreation> when rouche stops at 5x [12:42] <IiCreation> does it lose that 5x after using it once [12:42] <IiCreation> or does it stay that way? [12:42] <Linathan> It's stays up until you stop using his SBB [12:42] <Linathan> In any turn where he doesn't use SBB [12:43] <Linathan> he loses all of that damage potential [12:43] <Linathan> which is not ideal to use in trials where BC drop resistance is heavy [12:44] <IiCreation> how bout GGC? [12:44] <IiCreation> or raids? [12:44] <Linathan> GGC is probably on par with trials [12:44] <Linathan> Ares Down can really be anywhere [12:44] <IiCreation> how heavy is the bc drop resis? [12:44] <IiCreation> like 50%? 40%? [12:44] <Linathan> When people say BC drop resistance [12:44] <Linathan> it's generally very big [12:45] <Linathan> It doesn't necessarily have to cater towards a certain number [12:45] <IiCreation> huh [12:45] <IiCreation> what happens if you have a Bc drop increase SBB or es skill [12:45] <IiCreation> is that negate [12:45] <Linathan> Besides, most bosses have varying BC drop resistance [12:45] <IiCreation> or is canceled with the certain % that is has? [12:45] <IiCreation> hmm [12:45] <IiCreation> sirius LS + guiding light +sacred crystal [12:45] <IiCreation> is 30 bc [12:46] <IiCreation> meaning i only need 23 bc [12:46] <Linathan> You'll still be haggled by the resistance even with buffs [12:46] <IiCreation> hm [12:46] <IiCreation> but thats 30 bc right there [12:46] <Linathan> Some bosses have resistances to buffs too [12:46] <IiCreation> and if its sparked i get bc as well [12:47] <Linathan> In places like Avant GGC, those buffs will matter very little [12:47] <IiCreation> but id be using a diffrent team for avant? Xd [12:48] <Linathan> Exactly [12:48] <IiCreation> * IiCreation is confused by linathan [12:49] <Jimbob23456> Ugh Lin [12:49] <Jimbob23456> You cleared Noel's Challenge yet? [12:50] <IiCreation> MY EYES [12:50] <Jimbob23456> :o nvm I checked your blog [12:50] <IiCreation> lin has a blog? O_O [12:51] <Jimbob23456> On the wiki &gt;.&gt; [12:51] <Jimbob23456> Oh thats how Atro works... [12:51] <Jimbob23456> I didn't know how the timing on the buff-wipes worked ;w; [12:51] <IiCreation> you should be able to search for linathan in the search bar XD [12:52] <Nyanlime> I'm sure you'll have to hit search for blogs [12:54] <IiCreation> lin you there? [12:59] <Zerosia> afk again ... [01:00] <IiCreation> does lin have a guide for sirius? [01:00] <IiCreation> XD [01:00] <Zerosia> wb [01:01] <Neotemplarking2112> well that was an interesting summon [01:01] <Neotemplarking2112> did it thrice [01:01] <Neotemplarking2112> got a second Kulyuk, Rinon, and Febros XDX [01:01] <Neotemplarking2112> *XD [01:01] <Neotemplarking2112> so...how are those last two [01:02] <Neotemplarking2112> trash or keep [01:03] <IiCreation> keep kyulk [01:03] <IiCreation> the other keep if its not dupes [01:06] <Neotemplarking2112> it is not dupes but what you said bothers me [01:06] <Neotemplarking2112> it sounds like they might not be that great XD [01:08] <Neotemplarking2112> it sounds like Rinon at least is great [01:08] <Neotemplarking2112> burst heal and status cleanse [01:09] <Jimbob23456> She used to be really good [01:09] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Eclise completely outclasses her now though [01:09] <Storko> If it make's you feel better, she's like Quaid [01:09] <Neotemplarking2112> i don't have eclise haha [01:10] <Neotemplarking2112> but i don't even really need Rinon because i THINK Kulyuk and Selena together are more than enough heals [01:10] <Blake Xi> you're comparing a really old 7* [01:10] <Blake Xi> to OEs [01:10] <Storko> ^ [01:10] <Neotemplarking2112> yeah she's gone then unless there are any rumors of an OE for her [01:10] <Neotemplarking2112> same for Febros [01:11] <Neotemplarking2112> i really just don't need them and i don't care about collecting at the moment because space is so precious XD [01:11] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> I get no Omnis though [01:11] <Blake Xi> as we discussed earlier [01:11] <Blake Xi> there's no point trashing RSes [01:11] <Blake Xi> space is easier to come by [01:11] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> I wish I had even a Kulyuk [01:11] <Blake Xi> just delete random fodder mobs or evo mats [01:11] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> I just got 4 dupes in a row [01:11] <Neotemplarking2112> but i need the space for those things so i can use them [01:12] <Neotemplarking2112> obviously XD [01:12] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Sirius Feeva Raaga and Dolk [01:12] <Blake Xi> unless you're already maxed out on space [01:12] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Well Im raisng the 2nd Sirius though [01:12] <Neotemplarking2112> i'm pretty much maxed out [01:12] <Storko> expand more [01:12] <Neotemplarking2112> and i don't need to keep the Kulyuk either [01:12] <Neotemplarking2112> because i already have my Kulyuk at level 150 with full SP and everything [01:12] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> so [01:12] <Blake Xi> rule 1.1 of OEs [01:12] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> raise another [01:12] <Blake Xi> keep dupes [01:12] <Jimbob23456> ^ [01:12] <Jimbob23456> You can have different SP sets [01:12] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> have more than one OE for more possiblites [01:13] <Neotemplarking2112> waste of materials when i have other units to raise [01:13] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Its not [01:13] <Blake Xi> yeah but are they OE [01:13] <Neotemplarking2112> uh yeah [01:13] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Im raising 2nd Krantz and Sirius [01:13] <Jimbob23456> Well I have 6 Silas' [01:13] <Neotemplarking2112> that's just dumb XD [01:13] <Blake Xi> rule 1.2 of OEs [01:13] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Silas is a 7* or higher [01:13] <Blake Xi> having more than 4 is a waste [01:13] <Jimbob23456> Yeah [01:13] <Blake Xi> seriously how many SP variations does silas have [01:13] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> keep 2 or 3 of the same OE [01:13] <Jimbob23456> I think.. 2 [01:13] <Blake Xi> 2-3 works best [01:14] <Jimbob23456> I traded 2 for Merit [01:14] <Jimbob23456> 3k for 7 stars [01:14] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> My friend has 5 verns and 4 kulyuks [01:14] <Crimson Storm Mich> Alright bre [01:14] <Blake Xi> did someone die again [01:14] <Crimson Storm Mich> using 5* Michele again [01:14] <Blake Xi> jebus [01:14] <Jimbob23456> For what Mich? [01:15] <Crimson Storm Mich> Only cuz it's a requirement kappa [01:15] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> 3rd Summoner Arc [01:15] <Jimbob23456> Oh [01:15] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> most likely [01:15] <Jimbob23456> Im using 5* Charla [01:15] <Jimbob23456> Easy autobattling [01:15] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Glad I never raised Collab units [01:15] <Crimson Storm Mich> Currently farming Fire Mastery [01:15] <Hoshigaki 007> ^^ [01:16] <Hoshigaki 007> i never raise my collab units [01:16] <Jimbob23456> idk which one that is xD [01:16] <Hoshigaki 007> i was thinking to sell them cuz of the space XD [01:16] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Hey guys do you know if the dagger girl is Seria in the story or someone new [01:16] <Jimbob23456> But having a 3rd unit is amazing [01:16] <Hoshigaki 007> is not seria [01:16] <Jimbob23456> Not Seria [01:16] <Jimbob23456> Reda or something [01:16] <Hoshigaki 007> her name is radia [01:16] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Oh [01:16] <Hoshigaki 007> or reda [01:16] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Reda [01:16] <Hoshigaki 007> something like that [01:17] <Blake Xi> wasnt she a JP artbook unit [01:17] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> she looks like Seria Siblings? [01:17] <Crimson Storm Mich> Ye [01:17] <Hoshigaki 007> but as far as i know, she is JP EX [01:17] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> well she is part of arc 3 [01:17] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> most likely coming to global [01:17] <Crimson Storm Mich> O well [01:17] <Crimson Storm Mich> not the first time gimu didn't include a character [01:17] <Jimbob23456> Mich where are u farming? [01:18] <Crimson Storm Mich> since Ivy wasn't introduced to Global [01:18] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Man I am gonna hate the part where I have to beat dungeons for Mock Units Omni Evo like Karl and Paris again [01:19] <Jimbob23456> my Jp acc is HR 5 [01:19] <Jimbob23456> No paris or Lugi [01:19] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> Im getting Paris when the rewards come this month' [01:19] <Crimson Storm Mich> How long is yer acc? [01:20] <IiCreation> im getting paris [01:20] <IiCreation> :D [01:20] <IiCreation> just tom ake sure [01:20] <IiCreation> what was the rc for paris? [01:20] <IiCreation> XD [01:20] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> what? [01:20] <IiCreation> the rc requirement for paris [01:20] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> for 6 or 7 [01:20] <Crimson Storm Mich> Man Melord SBB gauge [01:21] <Crimson Storm Mich> kek [01:21] <IiCreation> hr* [01:21] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> oh 16 [01:21] <OracionSeis9> hi [01:21] <OracionSeis9> i need help [01:23] <OracionSeis9> .... [01:25] <Storko> help with what? [01:25] <Jayjax211233> Hi all I need help on the rugal guy my so called nuke team doesn't scratch him [01:26] <Divine Ice Wind Haile> I havent tried is he that hard [01:26] <Storko> Juno + Ark lead got wiped when he has 100% mitigation (probably because i didnt guard) [01:27] <Jayjax211233> Only for ppl who doesn't know how to play supurb at the game [01:27] <Jimbob23456> You can't survive [01:27] <Crimson Storm Mich> Pffft I survived fine with regular mitigation [01:27] <Jimbob23456> The way I did it, you nuke him before 10%-0%, where he revives will angel idol but doesn't use 100% miti, and nuke him again [01:28] <Crimson Storm Mich> Complete with guard and guard mitigation [01:28] <Storko> not me_irl [01:28] <Jimbob23456> Lies mich [01:28] <OracionSeis9> i am playing in my pc [01:28] <OracionSeis9> and i cant refill stamina with gems [01:28] <Crimson Storm Mich> His nuke didn't even bring my units to 50% [01:28] <Crimson Storm Mich> kek [01:28] <OracionSeis9> and in my phone i can [01:28] <OracionSeis9> and is the same account [01:29] <Storko> gems arent transfered on different devices [01:29] <Jayjax211233> Crimson storm can I get ur help in private chat with rugal [01:29] <OracionSeis9> i know [01:29] <OracionSeis9> i have gems in my pc [01:29] <Jimbob23456> But Mich [01:29] <OracionSeis9> but i cant refill stamina