Talk:Herculean Ultor/@comment-100.39.10.139-20151218074546/@comment-72.223.74.73-20151220085604

You have it backwards, Hadaron is a terrible lead anywhere but arena but an awesome sub. Ultor is in the same boat-meh leadership skill, great sub. Overall I say Hadaron because Hadaron doesn't have an awkward 200% atk buff (awkward because it lasts 1 turn). For the rest of the squad to benefit from it, Ultor has to use his SBB first. It is better to just run a 3 turn 140% attack buffer. Hadaron on the other hand has a 120% defense buff for 3 turns, crit rate, and a lot of self mods on his SBB. He was made to kill bosses. I often use Hadaron for defense buff so that I don't have to run a unit like Tridon.