Thread:~nihil~sine~scientia~/@comment-26297531-20150713040025/@comment-25209037-20150713053434


 * he disappointing thing is i understand your arguments mostly... while you totally can't bring yourself to try to see from my point of view.

Ok, stop. I don't know where you get the idea that you know what I'm thinking. I do understand where you're coming from. I don't agree with it, but I do.


 * i never saw it as a huge deal like a debate.

It isn't. Honey, this isn't a big deal. Debates aren't necessarily a big deal: I could debate someone on which anime is better over the other all day. Debate is the word that best describe what happened. Would you prefer the term argument?

If you think that I'm making a big deal out of this is because I make long ass posts, you're mistaken. This is how I am, I am a law student, and a damn good one since I can still play the game, making long ass answers is what is required of me.


 * and you should re-read your words against mine... i never did word anything against you personally, while you obviously did.

You should take your advice then. You're the one who accused someone of being unfair w/out backing your statement. You're the one ignored my questions and proceeded to play the victim.


 * i dun understand how can u claim to be offended (more than me),

Offended. Yeah, no. I said that I should be, but I'm not. I've had more offensive words thrown at me before so I seriously doubt you can rattle me. I doubt an internet stranger can rattle me.


 * when you are the one spewing so much hurtful words.

You're problem, not mine. As far as I'm concerned, everything what I said was impersonal as I can make them to be. My advice: buckle up and grow up. This is the internet, not everything is nice, you'll encounter words, phrases, you'll encounter people that says mean things: Don't read too much into it and don't take it personally because it isn't, we don't know you so it can't be personal.


 * you are the one doing all the personal attacks on that thread.

There was nothing personal in the exchange that had happened. No slurs, no name calling, no insults, no threats involved. It was completely civil.


 * let's cool down and keep it friendly okay?

I'm in our veranda enjoying the sun after a week long rain drinking fresh mango shake typing in my laptop. I'm as cool I've ever been. But being friendly, that depends, maybe?, but rest assured, I'm always civil.


 * ignored what i am trying to say to you.

Ignored. When I specifically quoted, cited, and countered your claims individually like I'm doing right now. And you say I ignored them? Tell me, for future reference, in what structure do you want to see my replies to you so that it doesn't appear that I'm ignoring you.


 * Finally, as a trained engineer, i pride myself on my logic, math, and rigor in testing conditions (a vital component of engineering).

Could care less who or what you are. In the internet, you're just Reylee w/the angel avatar as I'm nihi w/the Shuma-Gorath avatar. Just saiyan.


 * i dun suppose you will rationally check what point i was trying to bring across to you, recheck the figures/simulation i provided, go watch the ushi vids properly, and take back your words that what i said was "... completely invalidates your testing... ".

You did. For one thing, stop using big words like simulation. It's a damage calculator. You input the unit's name, set conditions, and let them calculate the damage.

Second, you didn't provide simulations, what you provided was a bunch of numbers without the explanation on how you came to reach that values. With the added note of "without buff". And you expect me to swallow and accept that?

Third, I do watch Ushi's video, I'm a subscriber of his channel and I follow his twitter account. He primarily makes vids regarding unit analysis and whatever strategies. He occasionally makes Global analysis as well, like Len's and Xie'jing's.

Lastly, no, I won't take it back because it is the truth. Why? Because you reduced your "simulation" to an absurd degree and completely ignored what was said to me. You removed all possible buffs possible, tell mine was invalid, then proceeded to praise Ushi's version as fair when he himself used buffs in his analysis, which is in contradiction to what you did. He even used a high level Frontier Hunter unit reward. In what world is that fair?


 * in fact ushi's vid actually is the real proof to my simulation (raw damage wise).

No, it isn't. That's Ushi's conclusion. not mine, not anyone else. You simply jumped the band wagon and agreed with his findings w/out verifying he said, and make a totally alien "simulation" then proceed to claim that it is the same as Ushi's.


 * he just never do sparkings with his damage tests, because that way the numbers will be actually hard to see and record.

Exactly. He chose not to for aesthetic reasons, not because it is impossible, difficult or wrong to do so. To make it simpler to you, this @non said: http://bravefrontierglobal.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/189.168.251.209: make a team comp that can maximize his damage to the highest possible. Key words: TEAM COMPOSITION, MAXIMIZE DAMAGE OUTPUT, POSSIBLE. That means taking into consideration spheres involved, subs, lead buffs, BB/SBB/UBB buffs, item buffs, etc. YOU simply ignored that and jumped at my throat and saying what I did was invalid and yours was correct.


 * somehow you brought yura into the picture.

I did, comparisons of 7☆ infiSBBer's roles was raised by me as well.


 * i only find it misleading in your initial claim that oguro is the worst dmg output like you claimed.

Misleading? There was never misleading about what I said. I said that Oguro was the worst damage dealer among the 3, and I meant it as that. There were no complex words in there, simple words that even an English speaking 5th grader would understand. You and the other @nos are the ones who jumped the gun and interpreted it as me somehow saying that he has the lowest damage output. Don't act as if my statement is strangely worded, it should be clear to you by now that I'm frank w/my words. If you found the context confusing, then ask for an explanation, don't assume.


 * anyway, chill... and learn to see from other's pov

I do. I'm a businessman and I intend to pursue jurisprudence: I make a living from seeing other's pov.


 * not make everything into a personal attack (i dunno how you managed to read my words into personal attacks

Again, there was nothing personal there. Also, it is not up to you to decide if something is personal to me or not. Especially since you're a nobody to me.


 * but saying xx argument is invalid is not equal to saying xx is invalid/insert-offensive-word-here etc

Not to say that mine is, but yeah, take your advice as well. Saying xx argument because xx said so is wrong as well. Though I don't find it remotely offensive.


 * i really have nothing against you.

Hmmm. The fact that you made this ... thread, on my message wall no less, implies otherwise.


 * peace out.

Ditto.